Comments on: France can’t meet its own power demand https://energytransition.org/2017/01/france-cant-meet-its-own-power-demand/ The Global Energiewende Thu, 27 Sep 2018 13:22:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.1 By: The impacts of electrification – the example of France | Energy Matters https://energytransition.org/2017/01/france-cant-meet-its-own-power-demand/#comment-7870 Thu, 27 Sep 2018 13:22:30 +0000 https://energytransition.org/?p=13939#comment-7870 […] France, September 2011 through August 2012. Purple = electricity consumed in heating. Graphic from Energy Transition based on data from RTE, the French grid […]

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By: Craig Morris bids this project farewell - FueladdictsFueladdicts https://energytransition.org/2017/01/france-cant-meet-its-own-power-demand/#comment-6603 Thu, 12 Apr 2018 02:04:05 +0000 https://energytransition.org/?p=13939#comment-6603 […] reliance on power imports. Then, starting in 2012, Germany began preventing power outages in France with exports, becoming the greatest net exporter in Europe in 2017. And power reliability reached a record […]

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By: jmdesp https://energytransition.org/2017/01/france-cant-meet-its-own-power-demand/#comment-5221 Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:19:30 +0000 https://energytransition.org/?p=13939#comment-5221 In reply to James Wimberley.

Pumped storage does not store electricity long enough to work efficiently with wind. When the wind blows, it typically lasts several days, and they are quickly full, not able to use any of the rest of the energy, and when it doesn’t or is very low, it also lasts a few days, and they are quickly empty, not able to provide anything more.
That’s why the ones in Germany, Austria and Swiss are impaired by the renewable development, not helped.

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By: James Wimberley https://energytransition.org/2017/01/france-cant-meet-its-own-power-demand/#comment-5145 Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:50:04 +0000 https://energytransition.org/?p=13939#comment-5145 In reply to RRMeyer.

The French problem is the winter heating load. The solution is not solar but wind plus pumped storage. The whole of NW France is suitable for wind, plus an ocean for offshore, and the farms can be put up in 18 months. EDF does not have to worry about NIMBY opposition. The pumped storage capacity in the Alps, Massif Central and Pyrenees would take five years at least. Meanwhile, gas backup. A big tidal flow plant can be put in the Alderney race – a one-off, but tides and currents are 100% reliable and predictable on a scale of centuries.

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By: James Wimberley https://energytransition.org/2017/01/france-cant-meet-its-own-power-demand/#comment-5144 Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:42:58 +0000 https://energytransition.org/?p=13939#comment-5144 Interesting data point that in the chart, peak imports to France from Spain were slightly higher than from Germany. The Pyrenean interconnector is open and allows cheap Spanish and Portuguese wind power to flow north.

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By: RRMeyer https://energytransition.org/2017/01/france-cant-meet-its-own-power-demand/#comment-5143 Thu, 26 Jan 2017 07:07:46 +0000 https://energytransition.org/?p=13939#comment-5143 In other news, according to energy-charts.de, on Tuesday 24th January, the German 90 GW Solar and Wind generated a mere 42GWh, an average of 1.75GW, and dipping below 1 GW for hours.

This is why Germany relies so heavily on Coal and Gas and will do even more so when the last 10.3 GW of reliable and clean nuclear gets shuttered to protect the goddam coal industry.
France relies on nuclear precisely because nuclear is reliable, and despite long term outages and safety inspections, the 63 GW nuclear fleet churns out 56.5 GW when it is most needed.

You and your fellow teutonic climate vandals want them to shut down their nuclear fleet while at the same time you point out they lack reliable generation capacity in winter.

Craig, tell us, what should they install instead? Solar farms backed up by billions of Tesla power walls, or indeed Coal and Gas?

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